Quick reminder to keep this thread civil. I wouldn't want to see valid feedback get deleted because it also contains insults and trolling, but it will happen - so take a breath before hitting that "post" button and make sure that you're saying all you want to say and nothing more. Also I would encourage those theorycrafting on FW scenarios to actually try it out on the server and see how it handles rather than kneejerk-responding to some patch notes - you might have fun!

So what Cearain wants to see is FW to stay as it is? Stagnant and dull? No thanks broski.

You mean no one's been able to access SiSi at all yet?? They simply posted the list and people started debating without seeing anything first hand?

No, not at all, I was asking an honest question, not even trying to be snarky.

But yeah, unless you've been on SiSi to give it all a thorough test drive, please don't clog the thread with speculation. It is for feedback, there is a distinct difference.

This is also not the place for "what FW really needs is _________ instead" because CCP isn't starting over on anything at this point. There will be more work post-inferno, and time for discussing what else should be changed / fixed, but if you're asking CCP for a different set of changes completely this isn't the appropriate thread for that stuff.

Thanks for keeping it calm, respectful, and productive. It makes for happy devs, and happy devs are far more likely to listen than grumpy devs. Be nice. It works wonders.

We really don't have one right now. If anyone is awake when these updates finish they may be kindhearted enough to start up the server. It might start on its own. We might start it tomorrow morning. Let it be known though, that this is all the fault of CCP ScapegoatGäó and all rage should be directed there

Yea well after neocom fiasco the expectations are where they are. To be honest I will be blown away if the improvements I recommended to it or to this new unified inventory will ever make it to the tranq, but at least have done my part again and told what it takes to upgrade half finished product to finished state.

I am too sorry that it has to be this way, but as the history has proven - issues which are not "liked" get buried under silence and ignored till forgotten. This is one of those times again where we players roll dice in here whether we shall get nice new inventory or half baked pie once again. There is no way to tell before the patch day.

Perhaps after this you reopen the neocom and finish that too? No? How predictable.